Jan 6 hearings live: Pat Cipollone to testify before committee as another Trump aide agrees to appear in public

Liz Cheney says she hasn’t decided whether or not to run for president

The committee investigating the 6 January riot at the US Capitol has secured the closed-door testimony of former White House counsel Pat Cipollone, who has been under pressure to speak to the panel for some time. His recollections are expected to provide crucial insight into Donald Trump’s attempts to instrumentalise the Department of Justice to overturn the 2020 election.

The panel will also be hosting a televised hearing with Sarah Matthews, a former deputy press secretary who resigned after the Capitol was attacked. The date of her session is not confirmed, but the next live in-person public hearing will take place next week with a focus on Mr Trump’s role in assembling the mob.

Meanwhile, the Fulton County, Georgia, grand jury investigating Mr Trump’s attempts to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory has issued subpoenas to South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham, Rudy Giuliani, and several other attorneys who played roles in Mr Trump’s machinations. Mr Graham has confirmed he will refuse to comply with the subpoena’s demands.

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Jan 6 panel member on witness cooperation

Stephanie Murphy, one of the Democrats on the 6 January panel, gave an interview this morning in which she discussed the difference made by Trump administration witnesses who have decided to put country above party or political imperatives:

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 18:00

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Analysis: Why Sarah Matthews’ upcoming appearance matters

Andrew Feinberg writes that for all the public might not know who she is, Sarah Matthews – like Cassidy Hutchinson before her – is the embodiment of a particular kind of Washington insider that can prove enormously dangerous to a former boss.


If you look at photos of White House meetings, there’s always an outer ring of chairs populated by people who staff the decision-makers — or the principals — seated around the table. People with titles such as Special Assistant and Deputy Assistant and Assistant this-or-that will often circulate between offices while making arrangements and relaying messages between the bold-faced names they serve.

Yet those principals often forget that the young staffers – often no older than their mid-20s – are in the room. The twentysomethings who keep Washington running are often invisible to all but a select few (usually reporters) who know to pay attention.

Read the full analysis below.

The problem Donald Trump didn’t see coming

Former staffers are often forgot about in White House meetings, noticed only by a select few. Now those invisible twentysomethings are coming back to haunt the people they were tasked with serving

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 17:30

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Caution on Cipollone

Kyle Cheney points out that it is still unclear just what Pat Cipollone has agreed to offer the Jan 6 committee – and the nature of what they’ve agreed will greatly determine what if anything the public eventually finds out about what he tells them.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 17:00

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Giuliani says Trump should have given himself a pardon

Rudy Giuliani, who reportedly asked Donald Trump for a pre-emptive pardon after 6 January and is now facing various legal risks, speculated this morning that his former boss might be having an easier time of it today had he issued himself a pardon before leaving office.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 16:30

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Pat Cipollone to give closed-door testimony to Jan 6 panel

After the Jan 6 committee ramped up its public pressure on him to give testimony, former Trump White House counsel Pat Cipollone has reportedly agreed to talk to the panel – albeit behind closed doors.

His perspective on the days leading up to and including 6 January itself will be crucial because of his direct involvement in helping fend off Mr Trump’s attempt to fully instrumentalise the Justice Department.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 16:06

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Lindsey Graham to defy Georgia subpoena

Attorneys for Senator Lindsey Graham say he will not comply with a subpoena issued to him as part of a Fulton County, Georgia grand jury investigation into former president Donald Trump’s push to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 election victory in the Peach State.

In a statement provided to The Independent, attorneys Bart Daniel and Matt Austin say Fulton County investigators have told them Mr Graham is “simply a witness” and “neither a subject nor target of the investigation” but dismissed the investigation being overseen by Fulton County DA Fani Willis as “all politics”.

The attorneys further accused Ms Willis of conducting a “fishing expedition” and “working in concert with the January 6 Committee in Washington”.

“Any information from an interview or deposition with Senator Graham would immediately be shared with the January 6 Committee,” the attorneys said, though they offered no evidence to support their claims.

Andrew Feinberg has the story.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 15:50

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Russian TV speculates about Trump returning prematurely

Russian state television propagandist Olga Skabeeva took aim at former president Donald Trump, implying the Russian government may think twice about mounting any campaign to support him should he choose to run in the 2024 presidential election.

Skabeeva made the remarks during a recent edition of her 60 Minutes political talk show, according to a clip with English translations posted to Twitter by Russian media analyst Julia Davis.

“The other day, Trump promised to destroy the Russian Federation, to destroy Putin’s hegemony, as he put it,” she said.

Andrew Feinberg has more.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 15:30

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Kinzinger pays tribute to Cassidy Hutchinson and other witnesses

Adam Kinzinger, who yesterday shared a shocking compilation of abusive and threatening voicemails received by his staff, has been singing the praises of Cassidy Hutchinson and other Trump administration veterans who have come forward to tell the Jan 6 committee about what they witnessed during the ex-president’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 15:00

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Trump real estate firm found in contempt by New York court

Away from his Jan 6 troubles, Donald Trump is still facing major trouble in the form of the New York Attorney General’s probe into his business dealings.

Now, a real estate firm involved in the case has been held in contempt of court for failing to produce documents subpoenaed in the probe. Cushman & Wakefield will now have to pay a fine of $10,000 a day until it complies with the request.

In characteristic style, Mr Trump has described the probe as a politically motivated witch-hunt and decried Attorney General Letitia James as a “racist”.

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 14:30

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Report: House GOP prepares to persecute Jan 6 panel after midterms

With the Republicans almost certain to take control of the House after this year’s midterm elections, Axios reports that senior right-wing members of key committees are planning a full-on investigation of the Jan 6 committee’s activities in an attempt to discredit the already devastating evidence unearthed.

The site quotes one senior staffer saying that “When Republicans retake the majority, we will exercise our oversight responsibilities including subpoena authority to review all transcripts and information that the committee has access to in order to identify the truth.”

Another GOP aide offered this ominous line: “The base is out for blood on subpoenas. A lot of it will just depend on how far McCarthy wants to go.”

Andrew Naughtie6 July 2022 14:00

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